Fishing Pier Issue
Contributed by: Jim B.
Another gift and another controversy! How did this thing go through so quickly. According to the council meeting last night, this went through the parks board and the council within 25 hours. I completely appreciate what the Otter Street Fishing Club does for the community, but what happened to doing your homework before you agree to something. Last night Warren Kraft said the approval from Council was more of a vote for accepting the gift. At that time they had seen no plans for the proposed structure. Now they are saying it will be bigger than first proposed!!! It just seems like something is wrong with the process. Thanks to Paul Esslinger for asking some direct questions of the staff on this issue!
I live nowhere near the proposed site, but have to fall on the side of all the people that got up last night. This is not the place for this pier. I believe that some of them have a "not in my backyard" mentality, but I think the majority who spoke(some who don't even have a view of the area) have some valid questions about this site. Does this really make sense?
And where are all of the people who think this is the best spot? Not one came up last night. I know I saw a guy from Otter Street the night this was on the docket at the council meeting. He seemed to be more about "how could you deny such a nice gift rather than this was the best place for it". I wonder if they were represented at the DNR meeting?
I am interested in others thoughts on this issue? It sounds like it is a done deal unless the resident try to do some sort of legal action(if they even can).
Jim B.
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Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: Jim B. on Thursday, September 15 2005 @ 09:33 AM MDT
Now I hear that the pier has no plans for railings? If this is true it does not sound like a real safe venue for kids and disabled citizens!
Kudos to Meredith Scheurman(sp) for bringing up her concerns in June about the neighbors not being notified! It amazed me to watch the meeting with all of the citizens getting up to voice concerns, the lack of feedback from most members. Brian Bain indicated he saw no reason to rescind the vote. If anything I believe the citizens brought a strong argument to take a second look!
Sorry to reply to my own post, but I can't believe they are planning on building a pier for kids and the disabled with no railings!!!
Jim B.
Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 15 2005 @ 09:47 AM MDT
Correction:
It was Burk Tower who said no good argument was made to reconsider the pier.
I agree with Jim B. There were SEVERAL reasons why this pier should be moved.
Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: DP on Thursday, September 15 2005 @ 08:07 PM MDT
If true that the pier would not have railings, I would think that would be unbelievably foolish for the city to allow something like that (especially considering this not designed for boat docking). A pier that sticks out more than 100 feet without railings is just asking for trouble if they are building it for children! I've taken my small children out on the fishing pier at the end of Michigan Street. That's a nice pier (although the river is much more dangerous than the bay).
Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: DRR on Friday, September 16 2005 @ 09:33 AM MDT
Brian Bain agreed with Mr. Tower on the pier issue. Brian stated the neighbors did not make a compelling enough argument to bring the issue back.
Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, September 16 2005 @ 05:36 PM MDT
the otter st. fishing club did state the pier would look similar or same as the rainbow park one and it has wire lines between the posts that would add some protection.
Another gift and another controversy! How did this thing go through so quickly. According to the council meeting last night, this went through the parks board and the council within 25 hours. I completely appreciate what the Otter Street Fishing Club does for the community, but what happened to doing your homework before you agree to something. Last night Warren Kraft said the approval from Council was more of a vote for accepting the gift. At that time they had seen no plans for the proposed structure. Now they are saying it will be bigger than first proposed!!! It just seems like something is wrong with the process. Thanks to Paul Esslinger for asking some direct questions of the staff on this issue!
I live nowhere near the proposed site, but have to fall on the side of all the people that got up last night. This is not the place for this pier. I believe that some of them have a "not in my backyard" mentality, but I think the majority who spoke(some who don't even have a view of the area) have some valid questions about this site. Does this really make sense?
And where are all of the people who think this is the best spot? Not one came up last night. I know I saw a guy from Otter Street the night this was on the docket at the council meeting. He seemed to be more about "how could you deny such a nice gift rather than this was the best place for it". I wonder if they were represented at the DNR meeting?
I am interested in others thoughts on this issue? It sounds like it is a done deal unless the resident try to do some sort of legal action(if they even can).
Jim B.
The following comments are owned by whomever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.
Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: Jim B. on Thursday, September 15 2005 @ 09:33 AM MDT
Now I hear that the pier has no plans for railings? If this is true it does not sound like a real safe venue for kids and disabled citizens!
Kudos to Meredith Scheurman(sp) for bringing up her concerns in June about the neighbors not being notified! It amazed me to watch the meeting with all of the citizens getting up to voice concerns, the lack of feedback from most members. Brian Bain indicated he saw no reason to rescind the vote. If anything I believe the citizens brought a strong argument to take a second look!
Sorry to reply to my own post, but I can't believe they are planning on building a pier for kids and the disabled with no railings!!!
Jim B.
Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 15 2005 @ 09:47 AM MDT
Correction:
It was Burk Tower who said no good argument was made to reconsider the pier.
I agree with Jim B. There were SEVERAL reasons why this pier should be moved.
Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: DP on Thursday, September 15 2005 @ 08:07 PM MDT
If true that the pier would not have railings, I would think that would be unbelievably foolish for the city to allow something like that (especially considering this not designed for boat docking). A pier that sticks out more than 100 feet without railings is just asking for trouble if they are building it for children! I've taken my small children out on the fishing pier at the end of Michigan Street. That's a nice pier (although the river is much more dangerous than the bay).
Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: DRR on Friday, September 16 2005 @ 09:33 AM MDT
Brian Bain agreed with Mr. Tower on the pier issue. Brian stated the neighbors did not make a compelling enough argument to bring the issue back.
Fishing Pier Issue
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, September 16 2005 @ 05:36 PM MDT
the otter st. fishing club did state the pier would look similar or same as the rainbow park one and it has wire lines between the posts that would add some protection.
posted by Cheryl Hentz at 8:54 AM
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