Amphitheater Bathrooms
Contributed by: Anonymous
Wow...the Leach Amphitheater is truly a beautiful place. That being said, it still frosts me about the arrogant and flippant attitude of some council members and the city attorney regarding the "no-bid" situation. Yes, they are nice bathrooms, with sinks and mirrors and all, but the price tag still puts questions in my head. I hope the council will call Mr. Martini back up and have him review all of the sub-contracts that he promised would save the city money on the building of those bathrooms. Did that ever happen? If so, how much did those bathrooms actually end up costing the taxpayers? Everything about that seemed wrong, from the no-bid, to the "conceptual plans", right through to the parading of Mr. Martini up in front of the council to explain how he could do us a favor and try to get the cost down by using some sub-contractors. I'd like to see one of the new council members who ran on the promise of "accountability" bring this matter up...IF Progress Oshkosh lets them!
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Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, May 29 2005 @ 10:04 PM MDT
Should Bush go back on Clinton for his decisions ? ?
Whats done is done....Do you think you will get a rebate back on your taxes if something is found out ? ?
Stop attacking these new people. So far they are asking all the right questions and getting to the bottom of things !!
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, May 29 2005 @ 10:22 PM MDT
No they're not. Scheuerman is the only one asking questions and is not just accepting what's told to her. Bain continues to believe everything is hunky-dory. Too bad. But really what difference does any of it make? Asking questions will only be successful if these councilors use the information derived from their tough questions to stop some of the insanity and put taxpayer needs first. I would encourage people to read the article on this web site about how Neenah continues to put its taxpayers first instead of developers. This is what we need more of here. Only then do you get development that is worth a damn and truly benefits the city.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 30 2005 @ 05:01 PM MDT
The bathroom issue is not over yet. The DA may have the final say in determining if the law was broken.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 30 2005 @ 09:09 PM MDT
As well he should. However if there is a conflict of interest then he will have to refer it to another county DA or to the Attorney General. What needs to happen, especially since someone with the AG's office has already given an opinion on this, is someone file (free of charge) a formal complaint with the AG's office and let's let them decide for real once and for all. That should teach Warren Kraft and the city council members who voted for the bid-waiving.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31 2005 @ 10:06 PM MDT
Kind of off the subject, but if anyone who is responsible for the Esslinger/Porta-pottie flyer is reading this...if pursued and proved, it could cost you up to $500 in fines and up to 60 days in jail. It is a violation of the municipal code to post notices or advertisements on public property. It will never happen, but wouldn't it be ironic??
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 01 2005 @ 05:20 AM MDT
This is certainly useful information to have. It seems pretty clear to those close to the situation who the culprit was, especially since he pretty much gave himself away when confronted. This leader wannabe is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. Nor are his friends and "partners in crime." Instead of putting him in any elected position, let's crown him King of the Golden Commodes so he can monitor all activity in the amphitheater bathrooms. Maybe he could even oversee any possible investigation of those cans.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 01 2005 @ 12:42 PM MDT
Sounds like the culprit could be Jeff Hal or Gordon Hintz. They each ran for office recently and neither seems to have lost any love for Paul Esslinger. They both were at Waterfest on opening night too. Did any one see them in or near the bathrooms? If so they should report that to the police.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 06 2005 @ 10:32 PM MDT
Maybe it was Paul Esslinger himself- I saw him with a handfull of flyers.
Maybe he is trying to get some publicity while puting the blame on others.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 06 2005 @ 11:08 PM MDT
Don't be so ridiculous. Esslinger had not even been in the restroom when the fliers were discovered in there. Jef Hall had been though. The fliers were given to Esslinger after being discovered. But since you seem to know that Esslinger had fliers in his hand it suggests perhaps YOU are Jef Hall. Silly transparent man.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:29 AM MDT
Touche! Jef Hall and his merry band of troublemakers are doing nothing but giving themselves a lousy name. They better hope none of them ever runs for office again because they have left themselves open to all kinds of political and character assasination. Even some of the local organized labor is not impressed, in particular with Hall. But speaking of labor has anyone seen Hall and Gordon Hintz on the labor show with Steve Dedow? Yowzah, what a trio. Dedow has gone over the edge since losing his election last year; Hintz seems to make a little sense; and Hall just takes up space on the stage like a big blob. But none of them has any enthusiasm. They just seem like they're there to hold each other's hand, prop each other up and commiserate over their election losses. There is nothing interesting about their conversation in any shape, form or fashion. Hey guys, try a little caffeine next time. Your audience won't fall asleep if they don't think you're going to.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 09 2005 @ 10:16 PM MDT
When will anonymous stop bieng anonymous.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31 2005 @ 07:33 PM MDT
For what Oshkosh paid for these restrooms is a reasonable price. If the bid process would have been used it would have delayed the project a few months, I like to see the council think like a real business, get the project done before the season opens, how much would have been lost of it sat empty this summe?( Sorry for the run on sentence, I was educated by Oshkosh Public Schools) Sometimes you really do get what you pay for.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31 2005 @ 07:58 PM MDT
What a stupid attitude. Buy something first, then figure out if you need it and if you got the best deal.
You should be glad you don't run a business... you'd be out of business in no time!
Imagine this:
How about having........... port-a-potties for a few months while the bidding process was allowed to go on? If we could have saved $100,000+ it would have been worth it!
Or would you still like the golden commodes at $675,000??
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31 2005 @ 09:00 PM MDT
Nice attitude, just get it done, never mind if we break the law.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 10:15 AM MDT
Your attitude is not only apathetic but pathetic. You care not the manner in which things are done, only that they get done right? At any cost? Never mind if the law is being broken and the process is just plain unfair. We need a nice place to pee. Well, pee on THAT!
Wow...the Leach Amphitheater is truly a beautiful place. That being said, it still frosts me about the arrogant and flippant attitude of some council members and the city attorney regarding the "no-bid" situation. Yes, they are nice bathrooms, with sinks and mirrors and all, but the price tag still puts questions in my head. I hope the council will call Mr. Martini back up and have him review all of the sub-contracts that he promised would save the city money on the building of those bathrooms. Did that ever happen? If so, how much did those bathrooms actually end up costing the taxpayers? Everything about that seemed wrong, from the no-bid, to the "conceptual plans", right through to the parading of Mr. Martini up in front of the council to explain how he could do us a favor and try to get the cost down by using some sub-contractors. I'd like to see one of the new council members who ran on the promise of "accountability" bring this matter up...IF Progress Oshkosh lets them!
The following comments are owned by whomever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, May 29 2005 @ 10:04 PM MDT
Should Bush go back on Clinton for his decisions ? ?
Whats done is done....Do you think you will get a rebate back on your taxes if something is found out ? ?
Stop attacking these new people. So far they are asking all the right questions and getting to the bottom of things !!
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, May 29 2005 @ 10:22 PM MDT
No they're not. Scheuerman is the only one asking questions and is not just accepting what's told to her. Bain continues to believe everything is hunky-dory. Too bad. But really what difference does any of it make? Asking questions will only be successful if these councilors use the information derived from their tough questions to stop some of the insanity and put taxpayer needs first. I would encourage people to read the article on this web site about how Neenah continues to put its taxpayers first instead of developers. This is what we need more of here. Only then do you get development that is worth a damn and truly benefits the city.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 30 2005 @ 05:01 PM MDT
The bathroom issue is not over yet. The DA may have the final say in determining if the law was broken.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 30 2005 @ 09:09 PM MDT
As well he should. However if there is a conflict of interest then he will have to refer it to another county DA or to the Attorney General. What needs to happen, especially since someone with the AG's office has already given an opinion on this, is someone file (free of charge) a formal complaint with the AG's office and let's let them decide for real once and for all. That should teach Warren Kraft and the city council members who voted for the bid-waiving.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31 2005 @ 10:06 PM MDT
Kind of off the subject, but if anyone who is responsible for the Esslinger/Porta-pottie flyer is reading this...if pursued and proved, it could cost you up to $500 in fines and up to 60 days in jail. It is a violation of the municipal code to post notices or advertisements on public property. It will never happen, but wouldn't it be ironic??
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 01 2005 @ 05:20 AM MDT
This is certainly useful information to have. It seems pretty clear to those close to the situation who the culprit was, especially since he pretty much gave himself away when confronted. This leader wannabe is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. Nor are his friends and "partners in crime." Instead of putting him in any elected position, let's crown him King of the Golden Commodes so he can monitor all activity in the amphitheater bathrooms. Maybe he could even oversee any possible investigation of those cans.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 01 2005 @ 12:42 PM MDT
Sounds like the culprit could be Jeff Hal or Gordon Hintz. They each ran for office recently and neither seems to have lost any love for Paul Esslinger. They both were at Waterfest on opening night too. Did any one see them in or near the bathrooms? If so they should report that to the police.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 06 2005 @ 10:32 PM MDT
Maybe it was Paul Esslinger himself- I saw him with a handfull of flyers.
Maybe he is trying to get some publicity while puting the blame on others.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 06 2005 @ 11:08 PM MDT
Don't be so ridiculous. Esslinger had not even been in the restroom when the fliers were discovered in there. Jef Hall had been though. The fliers were given to Esslinger after being discovered. But since you seem to know that Esslinger had fliers in his hand it suggests perhaps YOU are Jef Hall. Silly transparent man.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:29 AM MDT
Touche! Jef Hall and his merry band of troublemakers are doing nothing but giving themselves a lousy name. They better hope none of them ever runs for office again because they have left themselves open to all kinds of political and character assasination. Even some of the local organized labor is not impressed, in particular with Hall. But speaking of labor has anyone seen Hall and Gordon Hintz on the labor show with Steve Dedow? Yowzah, what a trio. Dedow has gone over the edge since losing his election last year; Hintz seems to make a little sense; and Hall just takes up space on the stage like a big blob. But none of them has any enthusiasm. They just seem like they're there to hold each other's hand, prop each other up and commiserate over their election losses. There is nothing interesting about their conversation in any shape, form or fashion. Hey guys, try a little caffeine next time. Your audience won't fall asleep if they don't think you're going to.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 09 2005 @ 10:16 PM MDT
When will anonymous stop bieng anonymous.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31 2005 @ 07:33 PM MDT
For what Oshkosh paid for these restrooms is a reasonable price. If the bid process would have been used it would have delayed the project a few months, I like to see the council think like a real business, get the project done before the season opens, how much would have been lost of it sat empty this summe?( Sorry for the run on sentence, I was educated by Oshkosh Public Schools) Sometimes you really do get what you pay for.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31 2005 @ 07:58 PM MDT
What a stupid attitude. Buy something first, then figure out if you need it and if you got the best deal.
You should be glad you don't run a business... you'd be out of business in no time!
Imagine this:
How about having........... port-a-potties for a few months while the bidding process was allowed to go on? If we could have saved $100,000+ it would have been worth it!
Or would you still like the golden commodes at $675,000??
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31 2005 @ 09:00 PM MDT
Nice attitude, just get it done, never mind if we break the law.
Amphitheater Bathrooms
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 10:15 AM MDT
Your attitude is not only apathetic but pathetic. You care not the manner in which things are done, only that they get done right? At any cost? Never mind if the law is being broken and the process is just plain unfair. We need a nice place to pee. Well, pee on THAT!
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