riverfront development, is it dead?
Contributed by: Anonymous
Oshkosh Council..... What is going on with the fox river redevlopment PLANS that was the big stink for so long, where is it now. Everything keeps coming back to the hotel developers for the condos and that ONE piece of property. What about the so many others that seem to have been forgotten about that now look like giant eyesores for instance the old Morgan door company property on the east side of oregon st. whats happening with that as far as I know including every single resident i have talked to "about 30" dont even know if the city owns it, has plans for it, if it is for sale, or anything about that property..... yet there it remains with most people having questions about it and not to mention IT IS RIGHT ON THE FOX. and next door to that is the Boat place... talk about an eyesore why doesnt the city step up and do something about that place that to is on the river and not to mention the rumors about the owners having financial difficulty and wanting to demo the place... if the city is interested about redeveloping the fox riverfront why dont they do a better job on keeping track of the properties along it and letting people in the CITY know that they are for sale maybe a local contractor would like to put up a nice townhouse complex on a site... but they cant because they dont know about it.. I've talked to area contractors about the old morgan site and not one of them could tell me if they knew if it was for sale, being developed, or anything. They knew what I knew "It's a piece of land right on the fox" if it is available the city should make it known if it has plans the city should make that made available too... and if it is not the city's property than the city should take it over as imminant domain. If they are serious about the redevelopment plan they NEED and have the RESPONSIBILITY to make sure there citizens know about it. I'm willing to bet that if you had a poll for the citizens of oshkosh and asked them to name any of the redevelopment projects and sites they could think of i bet 8 out of 10 could only think of the Pioneer in hotel and condo. Come on Council inform your citizens better of the plans AND Properties.... People dont even know what Properties YOU OWN and what Properties YOU WANT to own. Let them know.. We as citizens have fallen out of touch because of all the lime light shining on the the hotel and condo's. Tell your citizens what WE ALREADY own and the PLans if any and give them some time table. Also I have heard the city plans to take over or already had taken over the old Miles Kimball building on 8th Ave. Yet I have not heard anything from trhe city on this what are doing Council supposedly we have all these properties and yet no one can think of which ones or what is being done with them. stop holding your citizens in the dark and explain. What do we own, what do we want to own, are planning to get these properties, AND WHEN ARE THINGS GOING TO START HAPPENING. most people now belive that WHOLE riverfront redevelopment project IS ALL about the hotel and condos.l
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riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 07:31 AM MST
There is a plan in place for all the properties you mentioned. Talk to Jackson Kinney. The plans are all documented.
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 23 2006 @ 06:49 PM MST
The origional poster has some good points. Although I do have a suggestion for him/her. Please try to use some aspect of proper sentence structure when posting. Your post rambles on, switching from thought to thought, and is very hard to follow. I don't expect perfect grammer, spelling, or sentence structure but a few complete sentences would be nice.
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: DBCooper on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 11:39 AM MST
The projects you are talking about include the South Shore Re-Development Area, and the Riverwalk.
The reason these projects aren't "in the limelight" is because all of the plans have been laid, the money has been apporved (or rather the TIF districts), etc. They are, in fact, "done deals".
The reason you hear about the 5 Rivers project is because everybody is beating their drum trying to GET the money and TIF districts approved. As soon as that happens, you won't hear as much about it either.
Point your browser here to see the South Shore plans
http://www.ci.oshkosh.wi.us/Community_Development/pdf/SOUTH_SHORE_REDEV_AREA_PLAN.pdf
Point here to see the Riverwalk Plans
http://www.ci.oshkosh.wi.us/Community_Development/Riverwalk/Riverwalk.htm
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 01:13 PM MST
I believe the Morgan property is owned by the Morgan company. It is defintely NOT owned by the city. I do not think there are any immediate plans for that property. If you call a local realtor, I am sure they can tell you if it is for sale.
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: DBCooper on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 06:38 PM MST
There is no Morgan Company, there hasn't been since 1998.
Jeld-Wen owns the property located at 424 Oregon Street, which is on the east side of Oregon. They pay taxes to the tune of $5400 per year on it.
424 Oregon is included in the South Shore Development plan.
Section "J" of the plan I linked to earlier states that all the property will be "assembled" (acquired) by the city. It's only a matter of time. I suppose you could purchase it yourself and develop it, provided whatever you wanted to do met the cities plan for redevelopment?
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 07:54 PM MST
I think we should have the city provide TIF money for a "Jumbo Evil Roy Slades" with 17 HDTV's and chicken wings.
It would be great for all those free loaders during EAA.
Oshkosh Council..... What is going on with the fox river redevlopment PLANS that was the big stink for so long, where is it now. Everything keeps coming back to the hotel developers for the condos and that ONE piece of property. What about the so many others that seem to have been forgotten about that now look like giant eyesores for instance the old Morgan door company property on the east side of oregon st. whats happening with that as far as I know including every single resident i have talked to "about 30" dont even know if the city owns it, has plans for it, if it is for sale, or anything about that property..... yet there it remains with most people having questions about it and not to mention IT IS RIGHT ON THE FOX. and next door to that is the Boat place... talk about an eyesore why doesnt the city step up and do something about that place that to is on the river and not to mention the rumors about the owners having financial difficulty and wanting to demo the place... if the city is interested about redeveloping the fox riverfront why dont they do a better job on keeping track of the properties along it and letting people in the CITY know that they are for sale maybe a local contractor would like to put up a nice townhouse complex on a site... but they cant because they dont know about it.. I've talked to area contractors about the old morgan site and not one of them could tell me if they knew if it was for sale, being developed, or anything. They knew what I knew "It's a piece of land right on the fox" if it is available the city should make it known if it has plans the city should make that made available too... and if it is not the city's property than the city should take it over as imminant domain. If they are serious about the redevelopment plan they NEED and have the RESPONSIBILITY to make sure there citizens know about it. I'm willing to bet that if you had a poll for the citizens of oshkosh and asked them to name any of the redevelopment projects and sites they could think of i bet 8 out of 10 could only think of the Pioneer in hotel and condo. Come on Council inform your citizens better of the plans AND Properties.... People dont even know what Properties YOU OWN and what Properties YOU WANT to own. Let them know.. We as citizens have fallen out of touch because of all the lime light shining on the the hotel and condo's. Tell your citizens what WE ALREADY own and the PLans if any and give them some time table. Also I have heard the city plans to take over or already had taken over the old Miles Kimball building on 8th Ave. Yet I have not heard anything from trhe city on this what are doing Council supposedly we have all these properties and yet no one can think of which ones or what is being done with them. stop holding your citizens in the dark and explain. What do we own, what do we want to own, are planning to get these properties, AND WHEN ARE THINGS GOING TO START HAPPENING. most people now belive that WHOLE riverfront redevelopment project IS ALL about the hotel and condos.l
The following comments are owned by whomever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 07:31 AM MST
There is a plan in place for all the properties you mentioned. Talk to Jackson Kinney. The plans are all documented.
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 23 2006 @ 06:49 PM MST
The origional poster has some good points. Although I do have a suggestion for him/her. Please try to use some aspect of proper sentence structure when posting. Your post rambles on, switching from thought to thought, and is very hard to follow. I don't expect perfect grammer, spelling, or sentence structure but a few complete sentences would be nice.
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: DBCooper on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 11:39 AM MST
The projects you are talking about include the South Shore Re-Development Area, and the Riverwalk.
The reason these projects aren't "in the limelight" is because all of the plans have been laid, the money has been apporved (or rather the TIF districts), etc. They are, in fact, "done deals".
The reason you hear about the 5 Rivers project is because everybody is beating their drum trying to GET the money and TIF districts approved. As soon as that happens, you won't hear as much about it either.
Point your browser here to see the South Shore plans
http://www.ci.oshkosh.wi.us/Community_Development/pdf/SOUTH_SHORE_REDEV_AREA_PLAN.pdf
Point here to see the Riverwalk Plans
http://www.ci.oshkosh.wi.us/Community_Development/Riverwalk/Riverwalk.htm
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 01:13 PM MST
I believe the Morgan property is owned by the Morgan company. It is defintely NOT owned by the city. I do not think there are any immediate plans for that property. If you call a local realtor, I am sure they can tell you if it is for sale.
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: DBCooper on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 06:38 PM MST
There is no Morgan Company, there hasn't been since 1998.
Jeld-Wen owns the property located at 424 Oregon Street, which is on the east side of Oregon. They pay taxes to the tune of $5400 per year on it.
424 Oregon is included in the South Shore Development plan.
Section "J" of the plan I linked to earlier states that all the property will be "assembled" (acquired) by the city. It's only a matter of time. I suppose you could purchase it yourself and develop it, provided whatever you wanted to do met the cities plan for redevelopment?
riverfront redevelopment, is it dead?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 07:54 PM MST
I think we should have the city provide TIF money for a "Jumbo Evil Roy Slades" with 17 HDTV's and chicken wings.
It would be great for all those free loaders during EAA.
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