Just like Oshkosh
Contributed by: Anonymous
Whether you agree or disagree, isn't it just like Oshkosh to fly off the handle to build a pool during the hottest summer in 25 years?
Next year we will have this shiny new Aquatic Center, and we will also almost surely return to normal summer weather. This will include a few hot days, a few rainy days, and a lot of just plain old days where a few people will want to swim but the majority of people will just live their lives and go about their normal activites.
However, crowded or empty - keep in mind that we will need to pay to keep this running for years and years, no matter the weather....
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Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, July 19 2005 @ 03:52 PM MDT
Does anyone have the numbers on the Omro Pool since it opened? I know they lost a large amount of money the first year.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Jim B. on Tuesday, July 19 2005 @ 07:11 PM MDT
I don't have specific numbers on the Omro pool, but I was told by the city clerk that each Omro resident was taxed an additional $200/year for the pool, and it has never broke even. As stated in another thread Omro has approached surrounding communities for financial assitance in trade for lower non-resident rates and have found no takers. This is an awesome facility that is under used from what I have seen. With the exception of last Sunday, which could have been the hottest day of the year, the 10+ times I have been there it was not crowded at all.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20 2005 @ 10:05 AM MDT
If Oshkosh builds a facilty the Omro one will be dead.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Jim B. on Wednesday, July 20 2005 @ 10:36 AM MDT
I am not convinced this will be the case. The daily pass fees are not cheap. Family of four non-resident daily fee is approximately $16.00. That can really add up if you go more than a couple of times a year. This is one of the reason my family decided to pay the non-resident annual pass of $160.00. Most of the people I have talked to there were Omro residence. Most of our friends who come out from Oshkosh only come out once or twice a year due to the costs. I think Omro is stuck with the operating costs due to low attendance and higher fees. I don't think a lot of Oshkosh residents take the time or the money to go to Omro.
Jim B.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20 2005 @ 02:02 PM MDT
Has there been any talk about integrating our new water park with the proposed 5 Rivers project? Is there any reasons that this couldn't be done? We get our water park and it's a great carrot for the 5 Rivers people (it would obviously make the condo/rooms more valuable). That could be operated as a true public/private venture. I realize that would take a lot of coordination and negotiation, but wouldn't it make sense?
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, July 21 2005 @ 01:26 PM MDT
I'll point to another "public/private" partnership that we had in Oshkosh to help business.
THE PARK PLAZA HOTEL. The city will lose $750,000 in back taxes and sewer/water charges, and the city will lose the property that it's on because of this great venture.
Keep the 5 Rivers deal separate from the municipal pool!
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, July 21 2005 @ 01:58 PM MDT
I love this Jim B. guy.
He didn't have any problem with taxpayers paying $3.1M for the amphitheater, and paying anywhere between $10-$50 for a ticket (which would be $40-$100 for a family of four which he outlines in his last post,) but he complains that it would be $16 for a family of four to go to the Omro pool.
Hey Jimbo, have you been tippin' the bottle or smokin' somethin' funny?
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, July 21 2005 @ 09:48 PM MDT
Why do you have to insult people? You ruin this forum and other's ability to debate with dignity and respect. Save your chickenshit statements for the citizen statements at the council meetings, with the other yahoos in this city.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Jim B. on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 10:28 AM MDT
First of all the mention of the non-resident fee at Omro pool was not a complaint, simply fact. The point is that my family decided to buy the annual pass knowing that we would use the facility enough to warrant the $160.00. I could see some families might be less apt to pay $16 to use that facility.
Secondly, you are comparing apples and oranges. I do support the Leach ampitheater because I believe this will be a huge benefit to our city(see previous posts by me). With the acts they have brought thus far, it is unlikely that you will bring your whole family to the Leach for a concert. I wouldnt pay for my small children to go to Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Howie Day, or Seether. So the comparison is a little off.
If you review my history of posts you will see that I try to be constructive in my criticism, and point out the positives as well. I suggest you do the same.
Still not quite sure what your point was!!!
Off to smoke and drink the day away,
Jim B.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 11:03 AM MDT
My point is, Jimbo, you seem to be a hypocrite and a little dumb. When you want to go to an event (the Omro pool,) you *censored* about the price.
Then it's ok for me (and you) to spend $3,100,000 on an amphitheater that you claim is so great, but still has not been proven. In fact, if you read the Northwestern, some of these events are not getting many people to attend. Do you like your tax dollars going to a place that had no planning, had illegal votes by our council, and will continue to drain my tax dollars for years to come?
Sober up Jimmy!
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Jim B. on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 11:26 AM MDT
Does the namecalling reflect badly on me or you? Since my family does not have unlimited discretionary funds, we made a conscious choice to buy an annual pass at the Omro pool. Sorry if that offends you. I am glad to let you choose to spend your money as you see fit. I am not sure where the hypocrisy is???
What the Leach has to do with this particular thread I don't know, but I am happy to spend upwards of $50 a ticket on a show at the Leach that interests me. the place has not even been open for 4 months. Concert tours were well in place before the opening date which I am sure hindered PMI's ability to market it. I support the Leach because long term it is a good addition to a downtown in need of resurgence.
If that makes me "dumb" so be it!
Jim B.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 11:50 AM MDT
Jim B. good for you. I don't agree with you, but you certainly make valid points. Thanks for keeping things positive.
For the rest of the people who like to belittle and call people names, keep in mind that while you may think it's fun it certainly hurts the credibility of whatever points you are trying to convey.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 02:52 PM MDT
Have thought about going top the County Beach ? And what would you and others who want a new water facility in Oshkosh be willing in taxes or admission fees to pay for a new water park-like facility in Oshkosh ?
Whether you agree or disagree, isn't it just like Oshkosh to fly off the handle to build a pool during the hottest summer in 25 years?
Next year we will have this shiny new Aquatic Center, and we will also almost surely return to normal summer weather. This will include a few hot days, a few rainy days, and a lot of just plain old days where a few people will want to swim but the majority of people will just live their lives and go about their normal activites.
However, crowded or empty - keep in mind that we will need to pay to keep this running for years and years, no matter the weather....
The following comments are owned by whomever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, July 19 2005 @ 03:52 PM MDT
Does anyone have the numbers on the Omro Pool since it opened? I know they lost a large amount of money the first year.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Jim B. on Tuesday, July 19 2005 @ 07:11 PM MDT
I don't have specific numbers on the Omro pool, but I was told by the city clerk that each Omro resident was taxed an additional $200/year for the pool, and it has never broke even. As stated in another thread Omro has approached surrounding communities for financial assitance in trade for lower non-resident rates and have found no takers. This is an awesome facility that is under used from what I have seen. With the exception of last Sunday, which could have been the hottest day of the year, the 10+ times I have been there it was not crowded at all.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20 2005 @ 10:05 AM MDT
If Oshkosh builds a facilty the Omro one will be dead.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Jim B. on Wednesday, July 20 2005 @ 10:36 AM MDT
I am not convinced this will be the case. The daily pass fees are not cheap. Family of four non-resident daily fee is approximately $16.00. That can really add up if you go more than a couple of times a year. This is one of the reason my family decided to pay the non-resident annual pass of $160.00. Most of the people I have talked to there were Omro residence. Most of our friends who come out from Oshkosh only come out once or twice a year due to the costs. I think Omro is stuck with the operating costs due to low attendance and higher fees. I don't think a lot of Oshkosh residents take the time or the money to go to Omro.
Jim B.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20 2005 @ 02:02 PM MDT
Has there been any talk about integrating our new water park with the proposed 5 Rivers project? Is there any reasons that this couldn't be done? We get our water park and it's a great carrot for the 5 Rivers people (it would obviously make the condo/rooms more valuable). That could be operated as a true public/private venture. I realize that would take a lot of coordination and negotiation, but wouldn't it make sense?
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, July 21 2005 @ 01:26 PM MDT
I'll point to another "public/private" partnership that we had in Oshkosh to help business.
THE PARK PLAZA HOTEL. The city will lose $750,000 in back taxes and sewer/water charges, and the city will lose the property that it's on because of this great venture.
Keep the 5 Rivers deal separate from the municipal pool!
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, July 21 2005 @ 01:58 PM MDT
I love this Jim B. guy.
He didn't have any problem with taxpayers paying $3.1M for the amphitheater, and paying anywhere between $10-$50 for a ticket (which would be $40-$100 for a family of four which he outlines in his last post,) but he complains that it would be $16 for a family of four to go to the Omro pool.
Hey Jimbo, have you been tippin' the bottle or smokin' somethin' funny?
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, July 21 2005 @ 09:48 PM MDT
Why do you have to insult people? You ruin this forum and other's ability to debate with dignity and respect. Save your chickenshit statements for the citizen statements at the council meetings, with the other yahoos in this city.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Jim B. on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 10:28 AM MDT
First of all the mention of the non-resident fee at Omro pool was not a complaint, simply fact. The point is that my family decided to buy the annual pass knowing that we would use the facility enough to warrant the $160.00. I could see some families might be less apt to pay $16 to use that facility.
Secondly, you are comparing apples and oranges. I do support the Leach ampitheater because I believe this will be a huge benefit to our city(see previous posts by me). With the acts they have brought thus far, it is unlikely that you will bring your whole family to the Leach for a concert. I wouldnt pay for my small children to go to Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Howie Day, or Seether. So the comparison is a little off.
If you review my history of posts you will see that I try to be constructive in my criticism, and point out the positives as well. I suggest you do the same.
Still not quite sure what your point was!!!
Off to smoke and drink the day away,
Jim B.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 11:03 AM MDT
My point is, Jimbo, you seem to be a hypocrite and a little dumb. When you want to go to an event (the Omro pool,) you *censored* about the price.
Then it's ok for me (and you) to spend $3,100,000 on an amphitheater that you claim is so great, but still has not been proven. In fact, if you read the Northwestern, some of these events are not getting many people to attend. Do you like your tax dollars going to a place that had no planning, had illegal votes by our council, and will continue to drain my tax dollars for years to come?
Sober up Jimmy!
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Jim B. on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 11:26 AM MDT
Does the namecalling reflect badly on me or you? Since my family does not have unlimited discretionary funds, we made a conscious choice to buy an annual pass at the Omro pool. Sorry if that offends you. I am glad to let you choose to spend your money as you see fit. I am not sure where the hypocrisy is???
What the Leach has to do with this particular thread I don't know, but I am happy to spend upwards of $50 a ticket on a show at the Leach that interests me. the place has not even been open for 4 months. Concert tours were well in place before the opening date which I am sure hindered PMI's ability to market it. I support the Leach because long term it is a good addition to a downtown in need of resurgence.
If that makes me "dumb" so be it!
Jim B.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 11:50 AM MDT
Jim B. good for you. I don't agree with you, but you certainly make valid points. Thanks for keeping things positive.
For the rest of the people who like to belittle and call people names, keep in mind that while you may think it's fun it certainly hurts the credibility of whatever points you are trying to convey.
Just like Oshkosh
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 22 2005 @ 02:52 PM MDT
Have thought about going top the County Beach ? And what would you and others who want a new water facility in Oshkosh be willing in taxes or admission fees to pay for a new water park-like facility in Oshkosh ?
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